What Size/shape Paravanes Or Trolling Boards

[Hweebe]

Hi All,

Done a search on the forum around the different types of paravanes and trolling boards. Couple of questions for those with experience:

1) Which type / design / Brand? : Makka, Hookem, Yamashita, Delta, @aussie123 sells some. Interested in which type is the most forgiving (for my poor boat handling) eg tight turns, staying at depth, false hookups. Some are metal, plastic (surfboard shape / triangle)

2) Which size for Moreton Bay - Targeting schoolies. Some of the sizing doesn't tell you what depth they typically get down to and or what trolling speed is required to get to correct depth?

Cheers

Hweebe

[Drop Bear]

I was gonna send you over to 

http://www.reeltackle.com.au/

but I can't find if they do the metal ones any more. @aussie123?

I have done quite a few days of trolling with boards in Moreton Bay, Harvey Bay and up at 1770. I have mostly used the Yamashita ones and the reel tackle stainless steel ones. 

At 5-6 knots, the Yamashita get to about 4.5m. I know they really do because this they have hit the bottom when trolling under 5m. 

@Old Scaley had a stainless one down and wasn't hitting the bottom when the shitta one was. Not scientific but interesting. I have not used any other type. 

3'' spoons are recommended for schoolies.

Saying all this I have had much more success with mackies floating a pilly out the back under a float.

I have developed my own float fishing technique now. I don't like using baloons or styrofoam because it creates litter in the ocean. I also don't really like any of the float options with stoppers or clip on floats as they create hazards while playing the fish and get caught up on the tip of the rod. 

I had a left over yoga cork board similar to this one

https://mahalo4life.com.au/yoga/298-cork-yoga-blocks.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwirz3BRD_ARIsAImf7LNVlRZcR5-vwnVNDGFn6I2ZAO_8CyVMHhHW2YZ81JlrkM5h9UMPi_0aAjKuEALw_wcB

and have cut this up into small bisquets about the size of an iced vovo (just not as yummy)

if you put 2 slots ether side with a knife you can put the line through the 2 slots and you are good to go. My theory is that the cork will biodegrade like a stick or a piece of bark. They are quite expensive and totally disposable but you do get a stack from one block. I cut them up with a drop saw. 

Anyhow hope some of that helps.

 

[Old Scaley]

Hi @Hweebe, here is an old Fishing Monthly article that I have found useful.  http://wp.fishingmonthly.com.au/2018/02/02/school-mackerel-on-spoons/

[Hweebe]

Yes trying to decide between the yamashita and the stainless steel ones.

The plan is to paravane to find where they are likely located as articles like the one @Old Scaley posted say this is the most effective technique for schoolies.

I've only really tried under a float when we have fished gold coast reefs for spanish, but interesting that you say you have had more success under a float compared to paravanes.

Must be all the fishing reports that I read by Spero http://wp.fishingmonthly.com.au/2019/09/27/moreton-bay/

He seems to always be on the schoolies and swears by paravaning.

 

 

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

Hi Hweebe

I don't know much about paravaning, but I do know it's a very popular technique. Here is a link which may help you - 

http://wp.fishingmonthly.com.au/2017/12/04/spot-on-in-moreton-bay/

And here is a video (two actually) - 

The second one might not be so much on paravaning, but Land and Bay fishing is normally pretty good on general tips. 

Hope this helped,

Cheers Hamish  

[GregOug]

4 hours ago, Hweebe said:

Yes trying to decide between the yamashita and the stainless steel ones.

 

 

 

Well I bought the Yamashita ones and can highly recommend them. They sit in the tackle box very well and don’t seem to attack any of the other lures. As for whether they fish well, you would have to ask someone who actually gets out fishing.

[aussie123]

6 hours ago, Hweebe said:

Hi All,

Done a search on the forum around the different types of paravanes and trolling boards. Couple of questions for those with experience:

1) Which type / design / Brand? : Makka, Hookem, Yamashita, Delta, @aussie123 sells some. Interested in which type is the most forgiving (for my poor boat handling) eg tight turns, staying at depth, false hookups. Some are metal, plastic (surfboard shape / triangle)

2) Which size for Moreton Bay - Targeting schoolies. Some of the sizing doesn't tell you what depth they typically get down to and or what trolling speed is required to get to correct depth?

Cheers

Hweebe

Trolling Boards do work the best but they can be very fiddly to get to swim right where as the steel ones like the Makka's/Hookem's are very easy to use.

Makka are no longer producing paravanes or spoons which is why they are now hard to find.

Yamashittas work great but again they are very frustrating to use if you do not know how to set them up properly.

The ones that I sell work the same as the Yamashittas, Deltas, Yozuri ect but a bit cheaper. Set these up correctly and they are great and you will catch all the Mackerel that you need.

Tie the trolling boards on with a decent loop knot and run no less than 7m of trace off the back of the board to your lure and they will swim perfectly. 10m trace seems to work perfectly.

Also run them between 25m and 35m behind the boat and keep adjusting the length till you find the fish.

If you are the person who likes to turn too tight, don't bother paravaning as you will spend more time untangling them than you will catching fish.

[kmcrosby78]

I've got a Delta trolling board and have had no troubles. One of the most important things I 'think' is cutting a notch along the centre of the board as Spero advises to ensure the line runs straight. 

[Hweebe]

Thanks for the advice and tips. Have ordered a couple of trolling boards from @aussie123 and couple of spoons as well (ended up getting the two smaller sized boards 6 and 8m) Will try to get the technique sorted out and post the results. @GregOug this is why I enjoy fishing trying new things out and when they come off it’s so rewarding. I’m the same have bought countless lures with best intentions, some still boxed but trying to turn a new leaf, got to experiment because one things for sure the lure in the tackle box aint catching fish. Plus would rather lose a lure trying.

[aussie123]

9 hours ago, Hweebe said:

Thanks for the advice and tips. Have ordered a couple of trolling boards from @aussie123 and couple of spoons as well (ended up getting the two smaller sized boards 6 and 8m) Will try to get the technique sorted out and post the results. @GregOug this is why I enjoy fishing trying new things out and when they come off it’s so rewarding. I’m the same have bought countless lures with best intentions, some still boxed but trying to turn a new leaf, got to experiment because one things for sure the lure in the tackle box aint catching fish. Plus would rather lose a lure trying.

Thanks Hweebe

Just remember the depths listed for all types of trolling boards and paravanes is determined by how much line you let out and the speed that you tow them.

I will get your order out today as well.

Thanks

Lance

[Drop Bear]

On 22/06/2020 at 4:12 PM, Hweebe said:

Yes trying to decide between the yamashita and the stainless steel ones.

The plan is to paravane to find where they are likely located as articles like the one @Old Scaley posted say this is the most effective technique for schoolies.

I've only really tried under a float when we have fished gold coast reefs for spanish, but interesting that you say you have had more success under a float compared to paravanes.

Must be all the fishing reports that I read by Spero http://wp.fishingmonthly.com.au/2019/09/27/moreton-bay/

He seems to always be on the schoolies and swears by paravaning.

 

 

Spero is the king. Take his advice over mine every day. 

[Drop Bear]

8 hours ago, aussie123 said:

Thanks Hweebe

Just remember the depths listed for all types of trolling boards and paravanes is determined by how much line you let out and the speed that you tow them.

I will get your order out today as well.

Thanks

Lance

I couldn't find them when I did a search. I must have put the wrong words in. My spelling has never been goodly done. 

[aussie123]

34 minutes ago, Drop Bear said:

I couldn't find them when I did a search. I must have put the wrong words in. My spelling has never been goodly done. 

There ya go Robbie, lol 

http://www.reeltackle.com.au/catalog/Paravanes-437-1.html